Posted on Jan 31, 2008 - 5:49am by E. Phil Haley in Alternative Fuels, Biodiesel
Nope, I’m not dispensing any answers in this post; I’m just asking questions. Asking questions, though, as Martha would say, is a good thing. Questions demand answers, answers require thought, thought requires critical analysis and critical analysis can lead to the revelation of both problems and the solutions to those problems.
In Part 1 of this post I asked several general questions but only detailed a few of them. In this final installment I’ll do my best to detail the remaining questions and sum up. Don’t think, by any stretch, I’m asking all the questions though.
I’m not even asking all the questions I’ve thought of let alone all the questions that could, and probably have been, asked by others who are far more informed than I am ever likely to be.
The sharp-eyed among you will recognize this as the first question I asked in the first part. I ask it again for a different reason. With companies like Safeway, Dominick’s, Dole, Corporate Express and others making efforts of varying magnitude to increase their use of biodiesel it seems that a growing demand for biodiesel will continue. That could bode well for biodiesel producers but there are other considerations.
Diesel fuel, whether bio or petro, exists in a global market and the pressures of supply and demand must be considered globally. In the U.S., diesel power is heavily used in the freight transportation and construction sectors while other demands are limited. This isn’t the scenario in Europe, and elsewhere, as significant demand for diesel power exists across the board.
Outside of the U.S., every major manufacturer of autos produces and sells significant
numbers of diesel powered cars; often accounting for more than 50% of overall sales. Additionally, if racing achievements precede general trends, it should be noted that Audi has won the last two 24 Hours of Le Mans (and many other races) with their diesel powered R10; last year beating a diesel powered Puegeot 908. This year, the Audi R10 will be fueled with biodiesel.
Since petro-diesel has historically been produced as a derivative of gasoline production, I’m curious as to how the increased demand for diesel will be dealt with by both petro- and biodiesel producers. I’m curious, as well, as to how governments will choose to structure tax and fee regulations.
As I stated in the earlier post, tax structures seem to figure significantly in biodiesel production. I cited one article outlining the difficulties faced by Germany’s biodiesel producers, due to tax structure, and Everitt came up with several more. As it now stands in the U.S., petro-diesel producers are big taxpayers and biodiesel producers are big tax takers. This doesn’t seem to be a recipe for success; does it?
If you read the first post, you know there were a couple of questions I asked prior to this one: “Can worldwide biodiesel production be standardized?” and “Is biodiesel production truly “green”?” I think it’s entirely possible that those questions, and, quite probably, others are contained within the wider question of feedstock sources.
In North and South America, soybeans are the leading biodiesel feedstock source. That’s all well and good but using soybeans as an energy source creates a serious conflict; because soybeans are a key source of nutrition. Employing a single crop as a provider of both energy and food is a recipe for disaster if I ever did see one.
Sure, the situation will make farmers happy - in the short-term. In conjuring up visions of the long-term consequences, however, all I can think of are scenarios best left to sci-fi writers. That means an ideal biodiesel feedstock must, in my opinion, not create serious competition to food or food production; it shouldn’t be a significant source of nutrition or require large amounts of farmland.
Fortunately, there happen to be a few candidates meeting those criteria. But wait! I think a couple other criteria should be considered, as well; now is the time to incorporate the question of standards and ecological considerations.
I’m not sure everybody or, for that matter, anybody will agree with me but I’m going to set the following as criteria needing to be met in order for a biodiesel feedstock to be considered acceptable:
I’m sure others can either add to the list or come up with sound arguments against some of that which I’ve included but, at least, it’s a point from which to start. Surprisingly, there are quite a few biodiesel feedstock sources that come pretty close to meeting the above criteria. For example:
Honestly asking and searching for the answers to questions, without regard to bias, is a tenet of the Scientific Method. I don’t pretend to have asked all the questions about biodiesel that need to be both asked and answered. What I’ve tried to do, though, is get us all started down a path that’ll lead to good solutions. Bias, whether political, economic, or otherwise, will taint the process.
Good answers to good questions do exist but they won’t be found if we’re unwilling to hear and accept what might seem to be bad news. No good will come from artificially propping up a bad technology, no matter the reason.
Investigations of technologies and methods must be open and honest and when answers are attained they should be accepted at face value; even when they differ from that which might be desired.
This post, for example, assumes that biodiesel is the probable fuel of the future. What if it’s not? What if LNG or CNG or something else altogether is our future fuel? I’d like to think I’d remain open to the possibilities.
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The problem with Liquid Natural Gas and Compressed Natural Gas and to a lesser extent with Liquefied Petroleum Gases (Propane, Butane…etc) is the same as that of batteries although to a lesser extent. Low(er)energy density. They can, will and are being used but are suboptimal solutions.
Transportation needs HIGH energy density. To a lesser extent so does industry.
Low energy density is a huge problem for Gaseous Hydrogen .
On the one hand I think that “the” fuel of the future” will be artificial. Either bio(probably algae) or manufactured from Natural Gas or Coal resources….or probably both.
On the other hand I think that the for transportation purposes the platform will initially be diesel-electric hybrid giving way to liquid fuel (diesel/alcohol) powered fuel cell electric.
I agree that the “fuel of the future” will be artificial and I also think that algae is at the top of the list as a feedstock source. I don’t know about the diesel-electric hybrid being the initial drive-train configuration platform but you could well be correct.
I’m always concerned about engineering more complexity, rather than increased simplicity, into the design of anything. We’ll see, though. I wouldn’t be opposed to it, especially if it were implemented in a manner similar to that which you describe in your “hybrid” posts.
Electric motors offer possibilities unavailable in ICE. My dad was an electrical engineer and, in his spare time, was always fiddling with electric car designs because he felt electric to be the superior motive power source. (Just a little biased, in my opinion.) His problem, though, was the one we still face: how to generate or store the electricity.
By the way, you never commented on the Scuderi Split-Cycle engine. I’d be curious to know your thoughts in regard to it.
“By the way, you never commented on the Scuderi Split-Cycle engine. I’d be curious to know your thoughts in regard to it.”
Actually I’m mystified by it. I don’t understand it at all. I suppose it’d be ok but I wouldn’t have any idea.
I agree with you in the need to simplify. That’s why I’m all in favor of either a series-hybrid or a fuel cell. Simplification at the gross scale….driving the complexities to a deeper level. Kind of like computers in that the complexities are within the chip (for the most part) …we no longer have zillions of tubes or transistors.
BioFuels simplify. Driving the complexities to the genetic level of the algae and their processing.
Series hybrids would simplify by eliminating much of the drive train….driving the complexities to the electronics…chips. Locomotives and huge earth movers have used this strategy successfully for decades
Best of all would be a fuel cell….solid oxide probably…driving the complexities to a materials level….molecular. Plus…with a bio-fuel fuel cell there would ALSO be a simplified drive train….AND no engine.
I definitely agree that a biofuel like algae would reduce fuel complexity on several levels and equating the differences in chips and tubes with transportation engineering is very interesting; I’d never made those comparisons myself; you give me something interesting to ponder.
As I said, my dad was an electrical engineer and, as it happens, worked for the many times since absorbed Southern Pacific Railroad. When I asked why it was better to drive a locomotive with an electric motor powered by a diesel generator, rather than a diesel engine only, he explained the inherent simplicity and thermodynamic efficiency; so I agree with you on that standpoint.
My allusion to increased complexity was in reference to the proposed implementations that I’ve seen or about which I’ve heard. I think actual production designs will, of necessity, be more along the line of your vision.
As far as the Scuderi Engine goes, if, indeed, it’s more efficient, it might well prove to be a welcome addition to a series-hybrid.
If you take some time and go through the Scuderi web site, via the links in my post, you’ll have at least as good an understanding of it as I have and, because you seem to be able to grasp subtleties, I think it likely that you’ll notice possibilities or improbabilities that I’ve missed or ignored.
I’m supposed to interview the CEO in a couple of weeks or so and I’d really like to have your input; especially as far as questions you might have.
I appreciate the compliments but I think you’re giving me more credit than I deserve. I’ll look at it though….no promises.
Nope, I’m not giving you more credit than you deserve. And I appreciate the efforts on your part. Even if you see things in the same way that I do, at least I’ll know that I’m not the only one with the questions I’ve already got.
Like the Air-Hybrid idea.
I understand that under braking or cruising conditions the compressor pistons will be compressing air that can’t be used in combustion so diverting it to an air tank, to be used later, is a good idea but how will a constant pressure be maintained? Don’t you think that the air in the tank is going to have to enter the combustion chamber at a consistent pressure/temperature? I mean, it’s a diesel, the temperature of the compressed air has to be high enough to ignite the fuel.
I’m not comfortable with the terminology “Air-Hybrid”. The usage that I’ve seen apply to the drive line in general and not just the engine.
Although now that you mention it that’s a preeeeety neat idea. It would be kind of like using a jake brake to compress air , storing it in a tank for later use in augmenting the turbocharger. In this case there IS no turbocharger but rather an integral piston supercharger. (super meaning above normal barometric pressure engine aspiration) I dunno if maintaining a constant pressure is necessary….is it constant in today’s turbocharged diesel or doesn’t it vary according to RPM. My boost gauge suggests to me that it’s a variable.
Then again….that might be a plus…..to NOT vary. I would assume pressure regulation electronics and valving would be necessary. One might also consider that a SCUBA tank or the bottles for Oxy-Acetylene welding. They can contain enormous pressures.
Her’s a wild card for you. A Turbo-Electric Hybrid. (as in small gas turbine…..very high power to weight ratio…..hmmmmm….there’s perhaps a post in that…………
speaking of biofuels.
Here’s a company that claims to be able to make bio-diesel from algae.
In Montana……..in the winter.
http://www.greenstarusa.com/
Yeah, from what I’ve learned about algae/biodiesel production it can be done anywhere and anytime. It seems to be completely free from conflicts of all kinds. I also imagine, because of its simple biology, that it’d be a prime candidate for the “dreaded phrase”.
Speaking of “dreaded phrase”….
The Aggies are doing it for Hydrogen……….
http://engineeringnews.tamu.edu/news/1687
………….somehow I doubt that other bio-fuels will be that much MORE of a challenge.
More biofuels….ultra super duper no-sulphur from coal.
http://sev.prnewswire.com/oil-energy/20080130/DC1276730012008-1.html
The US has a LOT of coal….
Gas from Grass? http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2008/02/bio-crude-turns.html