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	<title>Comments on: Biodiesel - What&#8217;s Up with THAT? (Part 2)</title>
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		<title>By: Everitt Mickey</title>
		<link>http://lifeontheroad.com/2008/01/31/biodiesel-whats-up-with-that-part-2/563.html#comment-1237</link>
		<dc:creator>Everitt Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gas from Grass?  http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2008/02/bio-crude-turns.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gas from Grass?  <a href="http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2008/02/bio-crude-turns.html" rel="nofollow">http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2008/02/bio-crude-turns.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Everitt Mickey</title>
		<link>http://lifeontheroad.com/2008/01/31/biodiesel-whats-up-with-that-part-2/563.html#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator>Everitt Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not comfortable with the terminology "Air-Hybrid".  The usage that I've seen apply to the drive line in general and not just the engine.  

Although now that you mention it that's a preeeeety neat idea.  It would be kind of like using a jake brake to compress air , storing it in a tank for later use in augmenting the turbocharger.  In this case there IS no turbocharger but rather an integral piston supercharger. (super meaning above normal barometric pressure engine aspiration)  I dunno if maintaining a constant pressure is necessary....is it constant in today's turbocharged diesel or doesn't it vary according to RPM.  My boost gauge suggests to me that it's a variable.

Then again....that might be a plus.....to NOT vary.  I would assume pressure regulation electronics and valving would be necessary.  One might also consider that a SCUBA tank or the bottles for Oxy-Acetylene welding.  They can contain enormous pressures.

Her's a wild card for you.  A Turbo-Electric Hybrid.  (as in small gas turbine.....very high power to weight ratio.....hmmmmm....there's perhaps a post in that............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not comfortable with the terminology &#8220;Air-Hybrid&#8221;.  The usage that I&#8217;ve seen apply to the drive line in general and not just the engine.  </p>
<p>Although now that you mention it that&#8217;s a preeeeety neat idea.  It would be kind of like using a jake brake to compress air , storing it in a tank for later use in augmenting the turbocharger.  In this case there IS no turbocharger but rather an integral piston supercharger. (super meaning above normal barometric pressure engine aspiration)  I dunno if maintaining a constant pressure is necessary&#8230;.is it constant in today&#8217;s turbocharged diesel or doesn&#8217;t it vary according to RPM.  My boost gauge suggests to me that it&#8217;s a variable.</p>
<p>Then again&#8230;.that might be a plus&#8230;..to NOT vary.  I would assume pressure regulation electronics and valving would be necessary.  One might also consider that a SCUBA tank or the bottles for Oxy-Acetylene welding.  They can contain enormous pressures.</p>
<p>Her&#8217;s a wild card for you.  A Turbo-Electric Hybrid.  (as in small gas turbine&#8230;..very high power to weight ratio&#8230;..hmmmmm&#8230;.there&#8217;s perhaps a post in that&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Everitt Mickey</title>
		<link>http://lifeontheroad.com/2008/01/31/biodiesel-whats-up-with-that-part-2/563.html#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>Everitt Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of "dreaded phrase"....

The Aggies are doing it for Hydrogen..........

http://engineeringnews.tamu.edu/news/1687

.............somehow I doubt that other bio-fuels will be that much MORE of a challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of &#8220;dreaded phrase&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>The Aggies are doing it for Hydrogen&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://engineeringnews.tamu.edu/news/1687" rel="nofollow">http://engineeringnews.tamu.edu/news/1687</a></p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.somehow I doubt that other bio-fuels will be that much MORE of a challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Phil Haley</title>
		<link>http://lifeontheroad.com/2008/01/31/biodiesel-whats-up-with-that-part-2/563.html#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Phil Haley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, I'm not giving you more credit than you deserve. And I appreciate the efforts on your part. Even if you see things in the same way that I do, at least I'll know that I'm not the only one with the questions I've already got.

Like the Air-Hybrid idea. 

I understand that under braking or cruising conditions the compressor pistons will be compressing air that can't be used in combustion so diverting it to an air tank, to be used later, is a good idea but how will a constant pressure be maintained? Don't you think that the air in the tank is going to have to enter the combustion chamber at a consistent pressure/temperature? I mean, it's a diesel, the temperature of the compressed air has to be high enough to ignite the fuel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, I&#8217;m not giving you more credit than you deserve. And I appreciate the efforts on your part. Even if you see things in the same way that I do, at least I&#8217;ll know that I&#8217;m not the only one with the questions I&#8217;ve already got.</p>
<p>Like the Air-Hybrid idea. </p>
<p>I understand that under braking or cruising conditions the compressor pistons will be compressing air that can&#8217;t be used in combustion so diverting it to an air tank, to be used later, is a good idea but how will a constant pressure be maintained? Don&#8217;t you think that the air in the tank is going to have to enter the combustion chamber at a consistent pressure/temperature? I mean, it&#8217;s a diesel, the temperature of the compressed air has to be high enough to ignite the fuel.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Phil Haley</title>
		<link>http://lifeontheroad.com/2008/01/31/biodiesel-whats-up-with-that-part-2/563.html#comment-1223</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Phil Haley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, from what I've learned about algae/biodiesel production it can be done anywhere and anytime. It seems to be completely free from conflicts of all kinds. I also imagine, because of its simple biology, that it'd be a prime candidate for the "dreaded phrase".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, from what I&#8217;ve learned about algae/biodiesel production it can be done anywhere and anytime. It seems to be completely free from conflicts of all kinds. I also imagine, because of its simple biology, that it&#8217;d be a prime candidate for the &#8220;dreaded phrase&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Everitt Mickey</title>
		<link>http://lifeontheroad.com/2008/01/31/biodiesel-whats-up-with-that-part-2/563.html#comment-1222</link>
		<dc:creator>Everitt Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More biofuels....ultra super duper no-sulphur from coal.

http://sev.prnewswire.com/oil-energy/20080130/DC1276730012008-1.html

The US has a LOT of coal....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More biofuels&#8230;.ultra super duper no-sulphur from coal.</p>
<p><a href="http://sev.prnewswire.com/oil-energy/20080130/DC1276730012008-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://sev.prnewswire.com/oil-energy/20080130/DC1276730012008-1.html</a></p>
<p>The US has a LOT of coal&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Everitt Mickey</title>
		<link>http://lifeontheroad.com/2008/01/31/biodiesel-whats-up-with-that-part-2/563.html#comment-1221</link>
		<dc:creator>Everitt Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speaking of biofuels.

Here's a company that claims to be able to make bio-diesel from algae.

In Montana........in the winter.

http://www.greenstarusa.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of biofuels.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a company that claims to be able to make bio-diesel from algae.</p>
<p>In Montana&#8230;&#8230;..in the winter.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greenstarusa.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenstarusa.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Everitt Mickey</title>
		<link>http://lifeontheroad.com/2008/01/31/biodiesel-whats-up-with-that-part-2/563.html#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator>Everitt Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the compliments but I think you're giving me more credit than I deserve.  I'll look at it though....no promises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the compliments but I think you&#8217;re giving me more credit than I deserve.  I&#8217;ll look at it though&#8230;.no promises.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Phil Haley</title>
		<link>http://lifeontheroad.com/2008/01/31/biodiesel-whats-up-with-that-part-2/563.html#comment-1213</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Phil Haley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree that a biofuel like algae would reduce fuel complexity on several levels and equating the differences in chips and tubes with transportation engineering is very interesting; I'd never made those comparisons myself; you give me something interesting to ponder. 

As I said, my dad was an electrical engineer and, as it happens, worked for the many times since absorbed Southern Pacific Railroad. When I asked why it was better to drive a locomotive with an electric motor powered by a diesel generator, rather than a diesel engine only, he explained the inherent simplicity and thermodynamic efficiency; so I agree with you on that standpoint.

My allusion to increased complexity was in reference to the proposed implementations that I've seen or about which I've heard. I think actual production designs will, of necessity, be more along the line of your vision.  

As far as the Scuderi Engine goes, if, indeed, it's more efficient, it might well prove to be a welcome addition to a series-hybrid. 

If you take some time and go through the Scuderi web site, via the links in my post, you'll have at least as good an understanding of it as I have and, because you seem to be able to grasp subtleties, I think it likely that you'll notice possibilities or improbabilities that I've missed or ignored. 

I'm supposed to interview the CEO in a couple of weeks or so and I'd really like to have your input; especially as far as questions you might have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree that a biofuel like algae would reduce fuel complexity on several levels and equating the differences in chips and tubes with transportation engineering is very interesting; I&#8217;d never made those comparisons myself; you give me something interesting to ponder. </p>
<p>As I said, my dad was an electrical engineer and, as it happens, worked for the many times since absorbed Southern Pacific Railroad. When I asked why it was better to drive a locomotive with an electric motor powered by a diesel generator, rather than a diesel engine only, he explained the inherent simplicity and thermodynamic efficiency; so I agree with you on that standpoint.</p>
<p>My allusion to increased complexity was in reference to the proposed implementations that I&#8217;ve seen or about which I&#8217;ve heard. I think actual production designs will, of necessity, be more along the line of your vision.  </p>
<p>As far as the Scuderi Engine goes, if, indeed, it&#8217;s more efficient, it might well prove to be a welcome addition to a series-hybrid. </p>
<p>If you take some time and go through the Scuderi web site, via the links in my post, you&#8217;ll have at least as good an understanding of it as I have and, because you seem to be able to grasp subtleties, I think it likely that you&#8217;ll notice possibilities or improbabilities that I&#8217;ve missed or ignored. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m supposed to interview the CEO in a couple of weeks or so and I&#8217;d really like to have your input; especially as far as questions you might have.</p>
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		<title>By: Everitt Mickey</title>
		<link>http://lifeontheroad.com/2008/01/31/biodiesel-whats-up-with-that-part-2/563.html#comment-1209</link>
		<dc:creator>Everitt Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"By the way, you never commented on the Scuderi Split-Cycle engine. I’d be curious to know your thoughts in regard to it."

Actually I'm mystified by it.  I don't understand it at all.  I suppose it'd be ok but I wouldn't have any idea.  

I agree with you in the need to simplify.  That's why I'm all in favor of either a series-hybrid or a fuel cell.  Simplification at the gross scale....driving the complexities to a deeper level.  Kind of like computers in that the complexities are within the chip (for the most part) ...we no longer have zillions of tubes or transistors.

BioFuels simplify.  Driving the complexities to the genetic level of the algae and their processing.

Series hybrids would simplify by eliminating much of the drive train....driving the complexities to the electronics...chips.  Locomotives and huge earth movers have used this strategy successfully for decades

Best of all would be a fuel cell....solid oxide probably...driving the complexities to a materials level....molecular.  Plus...with a bio-fuel fuel cell there would ALSO be a simplified drive train....AND no engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By the way, you never commented on the Scuderi Split-Cycle engine. I’d be curious to know your thoughts in regard to it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually I&#8217;m mystified by it.  I don&#8217;t understand it at all.  I suppose it&#8217;d be ok but I wouldn&#8217;t have any idea.  </p>
<p>I agree with you in the need to simplify.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m all in favor of either a series-hybrid or a fuel cell.  Simplification at the gross scale&#8230;.driving the complexities to a deeper level.  Kind of like computers in that the complexities are within the chip (for the most part) &#8230;we no longer have zillions of tubes or transistors.</p>
<p>BioFuels simplify.  Driving the complexities to the genetic level of the algae and their processing.</p>
<p>Series hybrids would simplify by eliminating much of the drive train&#8230;.driving the complexities to the electronics&#8230;chips.  Locomotives and huge earth movers have used this strategy successfully for decades</p>
<p>Best of all would be a fuel cell&#8230;.solid oxide probably&#8230;driving the complexities to a materials level&#8230;.molecular.  Plus&#8230;with a bio-fuel fuel cell there would ALSO be a simplified drive train&#8230;.AND no engine.</p>
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