Posted on Apr 28, 2008 - 7:41pm by Wayne Weisser in Politics, Trucking
As promised I’ve actually read the bill. Todd Spencer (Exec VP OOIDA) was good enough to send me a copy after we talked on the phone. Something about that last post he wanted to talk about.
It probably sounded like I was against it, but I said that unless there’s complete visibility it’s not going to work. Guess what’s in this bill? After this bill everything is supposed to be right there in the open.
Here’s the intro to the bill s.2910 IS (pdf) -
To require brokers to disclose and pay independent truckers for any fuel surcharges received from shippers that relate to fuel costs paid for by the truckers.
I would change “independent truckers” to say all carriers, but later on it does broaden the scope -
SEC. 2. DISCLOSURE AND PASS THROUGH OF MOTOR CARRIER FUEL COSTS.
(a) In General- Section 14102 of title 49, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:
`(c) Disclosure and Pass Through to Cost Bearer- A motor carrier, broker, or freight forwarder, providing or arranging truckload transportation or service using fuel for which it does not bear the cost, shall provide to the person that bears the cost of such fuel–
`(1) a payment in an amount equal to the charges, invoiced or otherwise presented to the person directly responsible to the motor carrier, broker, or freight forwarder, which relate to the cost of the fuel; and
`(2) at the time payment is made under paragraph (1), a written list that specifically identifies any freight charge, brokerage fee or commission, fuel surcharge or adjustment, and any other charges invoiced or otherwise presented to the person described in paragraph (1).’.
The best part c (2) is the complete visibility. But why wait till “at the time of payment” ? What’s wrong with knowing all of that when you take the load and not after it’s done? At least that’s how it reads to me. Also, “a written list” could be any list the broker wants to make up. (Or am I too cynical?) The last paragraph of the bill mentions that you’re not supposed to lie about any of this.
Everything is supposed to be broken down line by line including the fuel surcharge and the broker’s commission. And you’ll have the right to ask for it and see it. If this is really the case, enforcement may not be an issue. If you are working with a broker that refuses to provide that, it’s up to you to go somewhere else, which in this market is easier said than done.
No one said that a broker has to make 10%. They might make more on some loads and less on others, but now it will be out in the open. If you’ve got a broker trying to make 30% or 40% you’ll know not to work with him again but if you do, you’ll know what your working with.
Broker in this case can mean carrier too. If you’re getting paid by percentage this will show you that the gross is really the gross linehaul and not just some number your carrier says is the gross. And if they don’t want to show you, it’s your choice again.
Bottom line
This has what we need. My Senator is Harry Reid and I’m a registered Democrat (don’t ask) and I’m going to write him to support this with a minor change. I don’t like “just a written list”. I’m not sure what would satisfy me that a broker is telling the truth except a certified, signed, notarized copy of the freight bill, sent to me directly from the shipper, but I’m sure there’s something better then “just a written list” and they’re not supposed to lie about it. And why wait till “at the time of payment” that could be 30 days later, how about at the time the agreement is made (when the confirmations are signed). Preferably before, but that might be asking too much.
The ATA and TIA (brokers) have bigger PACS than we do, but like Todd said, we do have the numbers. Go to OOIDA’s web site for help finding your Senator. Right now, it’s only in the Senate so I don’t think writing your Representative would do much right now, but it will go to the House eventually.
Support? Not Support? Do you think it will pass? Be enforceable? Be enforced? Do you want to see something else from a bill like this? Am I too cynical? Everything is going to be great when shippers / carriers see how much everyone is charging each other? Use the comments.
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Carriers and brokers are not going to let you see what they are charging their customers anymore than they are willing to show the shipper what they actually paid you to haul the freight. They will fight this bill tooth and nail.
I don’t think a broker will ever want to reveal what they are making. I know when I was one there was no way I would ever want any carrier at all to know what I had on the table before I tried to bluff someone into taking the load I had at that particular time.
Some companies do not pay a FSC to brokers, instead they just pay a flat rate (so much per mile). So what happens in a case like that? Will shippers then be required to pay a FSC in order to help the carriers out?
If it’s law they won’t have a choice. If a shipper doesn’t pay a fsc, then it will be on the “written list”. My only problem is it needs to be more than a “written list”, that’s kind of vague. Copy of the invoice would be better.
What’s wrong with the shipper knowing how their money is being spent? If the broker isn’t a crook, there shouldn’t be a problem with everyone seeing how much he made and everyone else made on a deal.
Full visiblity is what is needed to expose the crooks in the system.
There is nothing in the proposed law (that I can tell, I may have missed it) that requires the FSC be itemized on the list and/or invoice. Just because a broker wants to make the most money possible doesn’t make him a crook, just greedy. We all want to maximize our earning potential. You’re right - full visibility should be required, otherwise it backfires on all of us. 100% of 0.00 FSC (flat rate billing) is 0.00 to the driver. Also keep in mind that shippers are usually charged a percentage of the linehaul for the FSC. Do the math on that one.
It says, if a shipper pays a fuel surcharge, all of it goes to the truck and it’s supposed to be itemized. If it’s flat rate, at least you’ll know.
It’s on this post and in the bill under section 2, c-2 Here it is again -
(2) at the time payment is made under paragraph (1), a written list that specifically identifies any freight charge, brokerage fee or commission, fuel surcharge or adjustment, and any other charges invoiced or otherwise presented to the person described in paragraph (1).
Maximize his profit is one thing but - From Landline blog here
$1450 for making a few phone calls?
Now that’s probably a crook. But the driver probably should have never taken the load. But that’s another story. If we knew the complete history of every business deal in this country, we would all die from disbelief.
Why shouldn’t he have taken it? He got paid $2 a mile, that’s not something to turn down. The trucker thought he was getting a good rate, but because it was a government load with fuel surcharge, he could have had a great load.
With full visibility he would have known that.
Its all a bunch of BS. it is none of your business what my customer pays me. your agreement is with ME, if you are stupid enough to agree to take MY load for fifty cents a mile. then its your fault. I can charge my customer five bucks a mile if I want. they are two separate issues. if you think you need more money tell them NO! its not like they hold a gun to your head. I am getting really tired of all of these guys whining. just say no! Freight rates will come up when people stop taking cheap freight.
- Cheap broker
I, personally, think brokers should be outlawed.
But that’s just me, and I don’t use brokers.
Wow cheap broker those are really harsh words. Do you work for Cheap & Heavy? I think drivers are smart enough to NOT take cheap freight - but if they are trying to get out of certain area and they do (so to speak) not have a very big choice of freight - they are going to take the cheap freight to keep their wheels rolling. It doesn’t make it right for you to rip someone off because you are looking for a big profit check or because you are wanting to please your boss by hitting a certain pre-determined margin. It’s a matter of integrity - not greed - on a broker’s part to do the right thing.
Everyone knows how much Real Estate Brokers make. Everyone knows how much their Security/stock broker makes what makes you so special?
He or IT is the type that needs to be hung, this IT is the stain that we hate, the greedy lower life form that has taken advantage of this system, and has no guilt to take advantage of his fellow man. IT doesn’t even have the guts to use IT’S real name in IT’S post, this post tells you everything about what IT is….scum